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  Elder Mentioning an "Apostate Problem"

  by Simon Templar in

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  i bumped into a sister that i have known for at least 40 years or so.

  we were catching up.

  she and her husband have been in the truth for decades.

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  John Free

  If only more than 144thou would partake lol...

  Maybe partaking is the new protesting!
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  Conclusion

  by Esmeralda001 in

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  i decided to put an end to my affiliation with the jws for good.

  this decision is not the result of an irrational impulse.

  it is quite the contrary.

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  John Free

  Thank you for sharing your experience. It is a sad story that unfortunately isn't an isolated one. JWs like to say that they operate as idividuals with freedom of conscience, but that is false. They are conditioned to adabt to a strict, high control, rule based system of behaviour. bible students whom fail to modify to the JW model are rejected. May I recommend Steve hassans book 'combatting cult mind control'- this books author well describes how the JW organisation operates on new recruits even though he has never had any experience in dealing with the jws himself. He does so by describing how other control groups work and its the pattern that is unmistakable. Regards.
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  Huge discrepancy between English and German wikipedia articles about JWs

  by Zana in

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  the english version seems fairly balanced.

  to me it almost has an apostate feel, citing coc or describing doctrine changes and interesting details about wt history.

  but the german version?

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  John Free

  Ilovettatt2 makes an important point. Jwfacts is unavailable in so many languages, and most quotes from older Borg publications are from publications that exsist in very few languages. Hence, much of the European and Asian dub community have little access to ttatt. And exdubs can unfortunately remain indoctrinated.
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  Don't know what to do

  by looter in

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  i'm in a crazy situation.

  about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

  it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

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  John Free

  I agree with the idea of buying as much time as you can, with the plan to move out when you feel confident, but don't get baptised, remember while unbaptised you are untouchable. Can I just say that I think you're very brave and smart, brave cos most youngsters don't have to deal with this cultic behaviour and smart because many on this site wasted decades in this cult(myself included) but you won't!
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  new lawsuit

  by gda in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymb1gcxaomo

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  John Free

  Good on her for fighting them, hope they are made to pay. The Borg admitted their procedures are illegal in the ARC. There was a good point on here the other day- if one of these elduhs had their wallet pinched they'd go straight to the police, 2 witnesses or not! Not if a child is raped though...on no that's different...
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  The revolting morality underpinning martyrdom.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the three hebrew boys chose death over bowing down to lifeless idols.

  early christians refused to sacrifice to the emperor's genious.

  jws in nazi germany refused to sign a document that will result in their release or spare them from execution.

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  John Free

  I explained to my Borg sister recently that I have never felt better, the headaches which I had been suffering with for a few years have completely stopped, as- in my opinion- the stress of being in a control group that I knew was false- has evaporated away.

  She said 'you might feel better but that's because you've stopped enduring'

  Lol

  They actually think God wants them to live tiring and stressful lives.
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  Why I like the Mormons and why they are so much nicer then the JWs.

  by new boy in

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  i never really knew any until recently.

  as a witness we all thought they were weird.

  but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.

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  John Free

  I think they are as bad as each other, they only encourage higher education so they can collect their 10℅ tax -for life.
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  Why I like the Mormons and why they are so much nicer then the JWs.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never really knew any until recently.

  as a witness we all thought they were weird.

  but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.

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  John Free

  I once had a bible student whom had previously been a Mormon (investigator)- student. He had decided that he didn't believe teachings such as- Mormons will one day be a God over their own worlds, so he ceased having an interest with the group. -the Mormons shunned him.

  I have also met other excommunicated Mormons whose family have cut them off.
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  Thanks to this forum 14 years ago I broke free

  by Happeanna in

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  i belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !

  yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?

  "and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..

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  John Free

  I left the borg just 8 months ago and was traumatised and low in confidence. That is changing as I discover my individuality but its great to hear from people like yourself, whom have tread on this road and are happier and confident. They expect exborg to be miserable and shattered. My entire intellectual intuition was telling me this can't be the truth, and I recognised WT material was using unethical psychological manipulation on members and that led me out, still JWfacts was so important for me as it maps out why it can't be truth- it uses WT publications to destroy the concept of WT being the true religion. Thanks Paul!
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  Would I lie to you?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  given recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?

  in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.

  when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.

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  John Free

  1. I was dining with the CO at my parents house, after the food was eaten the CO asked where the restroom was. A few minutes passed and I was sat alone in the lounge as the CO enters. 'Did you find it?' I asked. The CO looks at me in utter horror and disgust! It took me 10 minutes to realise why-i wasn't that quick in those days.

  2. No I can't think of a lie...just not good at this game. Above story is true.